what meteor that exploded today?
oz who lives under a rock
given their relative size (usually), maybe we should learn to stop meteors first:.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/world/europe/meteorite-fragments-are-said-to-rain-down-on-siberia.html?_r=0.
interesting.. a doulos of christ,.
what meteor that exploded today?
oz who lives under a rock
what the watchtower society has is focus.
what ex-jw's lack is that very thing...in spades.. .
divide and conquer, eh?
Only a few former Jehovah's Witnesses have what it takes to make a difference.
Actually, only a few have the right to try and make a difference. let me use myself as an example...
I was never abused by a nazi JW father, never beaten by a pshyco JW mother. Never had an elder treat me badly, nor hurt my family. I didn't wake up and look behind the curtain, I didnt leave for 'noble' reasons either.
All I had was a mid life crises. I had no idea what was happening and the poor wife had even less idea. I and the Elders were poorly equipped to deal with it save for the advice to study more and pray harder. I had my demons to conquer and i didnt. it was not the easy way out, it was bloody hard and blew my life apart as surely as thse who looked behind the curtain and saw the truth about the truth. I was never shunned by family, all i lost besides material things and a family was all my so called friends.
I was disfellowshipped for deliberate cold calculated adultery to end my by now unsalvagable marriage and to free the wife to find love again.
I have long thought about waging some battle against the WT over child abuse or shunning, or taking the message to the steets and even a campaign to wake up current JWs, but you know what?
I HAVE NO CREDIBILITY
Who am I to be interveiwed on sixty minutes as some person of substance? Who am I to organize a massive rally out the front of Bethel? Who am I to print and distribute the real facts about the WT?
I am nobody, and sorry to say, many of us are nobody when it comes to slaying the Watchtower monster. All a lot of us are is shmucks who screwed someone we shouldn't have or smoked a ciggy.
I can see it now, ''Mr Oz, just how have you come to lead this army of ex JWs against the Watchtower organization"? "Well, mr reporter, see i just rooted some bird to end my marriage and then 12 years later realized my religion that i got kicked of or 10 years ago was a crock of shit, so..."
(well, talk about just putting it all in perspective for myself!)
See what I mean? Not many of us can fight the monster, all we can do is be indignant that it stole some time. And sometimes that just makes us angry and want to throw things at them.
Oz
what the watchtower society has is focus.
what ex-jw's lack is that very thing...in spades.. .
divide and conquer, eh?
Hey man, lay of those sideburns...
mine, by the way, are magnificent.
Oz
finally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.
(2 cor.
6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.
Miss meals?
Shite, i knew one who managed 5 square meals a day plus snacks.
he was a rolling heart attack waiting to happen.
Oz
here in the uk the cost of living is going up far beyond wage rises.
the cost of travelling is shooting up each time i look at a petrol pump!
water rates are rising.
I really believe it is in part, to keep as many people on the treadmill feeding the giant economy monster as possible.
If we all could hope off and grow our own food, be less dependant on power, fuels and technology, the world as we know it would collapse.
Oz
we'll see how long this lasts.... i'll write a chapter each day.
every day.. when there is nothing left to say.....it is over.. it could end up being a book nobody will every read.
or, it might be read by a few and it might mean something to somebody.
I am stunned Terry
i have never read a clearer picture of the Watchtowers criminality in getting young men to Martyr themselves in the name of self agrandizement.
What they did to you and thousands of other boys back then (and probably still do) was disgusting. And to think that if you were in mexico all you would have had to do to stay in good standing was bribe some officials...
Oz
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2001051?q=governing+body&p=par.
another unforgettable annual meeting.
these questions were answered at the annual meeting held on october 1, 1971. on that occasion, one of the speakers pointed out that the governingbody of the faithful and discreet slave preceded the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania by hundreds of years.
perhaps they all wake up one morning with the same name on their lips...
maybe a few months ago, they all stumbled out of bed, rolled off their trophy wives and went, "mmmmm mark Sanderson''
I can imagine them all bumping into each other at breakfast chanting ''mark Sanderson Mark Sanderson mark sanderson"...
oz
zech.
"this is what jehovah of armies has said...."it will be in those days that ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold ,yes they will actually take hold of the skirt of a man who is a jew saying:"we will go with you people,for we have heard that god is with you people ".. this was a scripture that was presented to me, that i was fullfilling bible prophecy , when i first became interested in jw`s and of course all other studies,baptisms that were occuring at that time .and the clincher of course was,.
isa.60:22 the little one himself will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.i myself jehovah,shall speed it up in it`s own time .. and i`m talking now about the early 1960`s.
they stay in never never land, never mentioned again so that in a just a few short years most JWs have never heard of them.
OZ
im on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
wow. At least you have faced your worst fears, from here it should be easier. Not saying it will be a walk in the park, but it sure is a nicer path one walks when one is true to themself.
please stay in touch with the board for encouragement and support. You will be able to start again and find true friends and create a family out of those who actually do not care about such insignificant things as ones sexuality and beliefs.
stay strong
Oz
has anyone heard any info about the backpack in the us?
there's a topic with about 10 pages about it over in the spanish forum.
http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?22472-la-mochila.
yes lois, mum is still alive, waiting to die or be rescued by the big A.
on thread, yeah i can see it now, on the six oclock news...''yeah we all safe because our organization told us to prepare these neat little backpacks. Pity those poor catholic neighbors who died...if only they had served the true god je-ho-vah, you got that mr reporter? not jehovna witness ok''?
oz